Can Ukraine Outlast Putin’s Russia? | Pod Save The World



Tommy Vietor and Ben Rhodes discuss the two-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the military defeat of Avdiivka, panic at the Munich Security Conference over Republicans blocking more aid to Ukraine, and how Ukrainians have adapted to living in a state of war. Then they talk about calls for accountability for Alexei Navalny’s death and his wife Yulia’s promise to continue Alexei’s work, the arrest of an American dual national in Russia, Tucker Carlson’s Moscow metro propaganda videos, and an update on Russia’s space nukes. They also look at Netanyahu’s insistence on invading Rafah, a pro-Israel group’s attack on a Washington Post reporter, the Indonesian elections, why Jared Kushner is still a sniveling little prick, and a very Australian mankini scandal. Then Tommy talks with Mstyslav Chernov about his incredible documentary, 20 Days in Mariupol.

CHAPTERS
0:00 – Intro
3:45 – 2 years of War in Ukraine
33:10 – Tucker Carslon’s poorly timed interview
37:55 – Space nukes
42:12 – Israel/Hamas updates
54:27 – Indonesia elections
58:09 – Jared Kushner
1:02:22 – Mankinis
1:04:12 – Mstyslav Chernov interview

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  1. Of course you have to compare Palestine to the Holocaust! You have to point out the connection. The Abused grow up to be abusers. No other analogy makes the same point.

    Balas
  2. I have no doubt Moscow and St Pete's central urban cores are well-maintained with Russia's nationalized oil and gas money… it's the state of the rest of Russia that measures how they treat their population. Despite Tucker's glowing praise, if the US nationalized oil or gas assets and/or spent the money to upgrade NYC's or DC's subway, the Tucker's of the world would be screaming bloody murder about socialism.

    Balas
  3. A lot of people also fail to recognize just how much is being shipped to Ukraine. In the end, it's a very little amount of liquid assets (cash), rockets and bombs don't have the money wrapped around them when they're launched and dropped. That money stays here, creates new jobs, sells more weapons around the world etc. etc..

    I honestly don't know what the Republicans are doing here, although I assume that they see Ukraine winning as a win for President Biden, and as such think it only necessary to stall him at every juncture. We need to send a clear message to the rest of the world that annexation (even those with the threat of nuclear weapons) is unacceptable.

    Balas
  4. on a micro and macro level victims often perpetrate persecution similar to that inflicted upon themselves, which I think is perhaps why Holocaust analogies are sometimes used, though the point on scale is valid; comparing to pogroms might be more apt.

    Balas
  5. Bit of a flow of ideas reading one of the comments:

    Social engineering via perception management:

    Psychological warfare – Make you doubt yourself.

    Nonlinear warfare – Make you doubt everyone else.

    Internal and external locus on control is shot. That creates desperation. Can't trust myself, can't trust anyone else, who can rescue me from this?

    'The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.' -Reichsmarschall Hermann Wilhelm Göring, leader in Adolf's Nazi party at Nuremburg trials 1946

    …Putin and the 'fascists' in Ukraine, BoJo and his Polish plumbers/Sunak and his 'small boats', Trump and the caravan of central American immigrants.

    … this is 'Asymmetric warfare' – upset people, heightened emotion makes people more suggestible, so that they are primed for the suggestion that they are the big strong boy who when you give them your utter submission they will think for you. This combination is what Chomsky called the 'Manufacture of Consent'.

    Balas
  6. I can’t help but feel they’re kinda harping on about the Lula statement. Is Gaza as bad as The Holocaust? No. Just numerically, it’s not 11 million dead, so it really can’t be. However, we all have a pretty well agreed upon shared point in time for cruel, ideologically driven, industrial annihilation of life under flimsy pretenses-The Holocaust. I don’t really feel invoking those points in relation to the Gaza war is that outlandish. Extreme maybe, but I also don’t know if this is the subject for subtlety.

    Balas

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